MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Sooo, first of all, most of you will stop watching the moment you realize its stop motion movie and not an actual movie (thats my real fps, sigh ... ) and that several pvps were already posted from someone (but different party/player pov). This is long promised movie with summoner in actual party composition (for people saying its totally useless and cannot get into party), probably last on my old war machine (if something, i will fraps max olympiad where i need to render just 1 other person :d) gameplay wise, i must say i enjoy it much more when it had top kek mage nuke, because at that time i was pretty much just spamming blaze and nothing else, right now i try to do more things (and still failing, ez) and i find it more interesting. Yes, its not your dream nuker, it doesnt have sick damage, but the damage is cool, its not DA to cancel 50 people at once, but baning certain people is very important, yes, its not tank with aggros/block shield and everything, but it can soak damage very well. What i found most interesting when i started to pvp with summoner is that i always imagined it being the last guy in the end, just sending summon like biggest pussy ever, but in reality i think summoner is supposed to be in front because of its ability to tank damage all in all, summoner is not great, not terrible in my eyes, it can make jobs of several classes just good enough and if there is someone dedicated, i dont think he cannot make it work in cp (tho i dont think summoners are in spot to make full summoner CP, more like you take 1 summoner in party to control enemies) enjoy ps: i wish this stupid Skitter would listen to me more :< but he is running however he wants Edited April 9, 2020 by MoDoy 10 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Rizos 1487 Report post Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) How is that you always have to play poop class? SR, then PW, now this WK. 🤮 Waiting for pipen pov, thats gonna be hella amazing 🤩 Edited April 9, 2020 by Rizos Quote Share this post Link to post
Jsem 33 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 Solid game play and hella fun class to play tbh. I was thinking in making a ES but WK seems fun :) thanks Modoy. Quote Share this post Link to post
freakout 17 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 i always get scared about how china can ress their healers just after they get killed... fast fingers ftw Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 and here i thought we will have burning discussion how summoners need boost, how its unfair their nuke is not full power, how their pet is absolutely useless, how they cannot be part of CP because they suck and how san0 needs to fix this poop ... Quote Share this post Link to post
Jsem 33 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 I saw you were hitting 2k m.crits on people thats neat to be a summoner idk plus skitty hits hard to :F Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jsem said: I saw you were hitting 2k m.crits on people thats neat to be a summoner idk plus skitty hits hard to :F skitter makes almost no dmg with his auto attacks, considering how much P atk that small kitty has, but at least he is soaking 50% of my received damage, so he is precious Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 Honestly disgusting how much dmg summs can tank... Nice vid tho Quote Share this post Link to post
Lafi 100 Report post Posted April 10, 2020 4 hours ago, FryderykChopin said: Honestly disgusting how much dmg summs can tank... Nice vid tho 🤦♂️ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 18 hours ago, FryderykChopin said: Honestly disgusting how much dmg summs can tank... Nice vid tho thats sweet and nice, but it does not nuke like mage, so its useless in the end Quote Share this post Link to post
FryderykChopin 853 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 exactly, -2/10 would not play, give summies UD and Chain Heal or useless 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Kim 232 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 maybe first summoner pov that I enjoyed to watch. but i like more SR pov movie though. Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Kim said: maybe first summoner pov that I enjoyed to watch.but i like more SR pov movie though. thats dark past i am probably never comming back to but as was said, maybe i will try to put more light on "useless underdog classes" in the futur, i dont think i will stick to summoner for way too long Quote Share this post Link to post
pako 33 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 besides archers there is not many "useless underdog classes" tho Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, pako said: besides archers there is not many "useless underdog classes" tho well, i still plan to make gladiator great again if our part ever goes archer setup (axzp sadly failed to bring light to this class) Edited April 12, 2020 by MoDoy Quote Share this post Link to post
[email protected] 24 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 16 hours ago, MoDoy said: well, i still plan to make gladiator great again if our part ever goes archer setup (axzp sadly failed to bring light to this class) well quatz on offi with his 84lvl, +17 a grade dual hits +/- not bad, but compared with same tyrant was really sad proffesion i played gladi on off, mby i haven't a lot of neccesary boost on him, but with hero duals i hit to top players so low dps that i reroll valor+pala buff+puri and gladi is just bad :(( and you need ee which will constantly giving you mp innova dont like gladi on classic but even when he was so terrible it was funny to play as gladiator ;D Quote Share this post Link to post
chevignon 153 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, [email protected] said: well quatz on offi with his 84lvl, +17 a grade dual hits +/- not bad, but compared with same tyrant was really sad proffesion i played gladi on off, mby i haven't a lot of neccesary boost on him, but with hero duals i hit to top players so low dps that i reroll valor+pala buff+puri and gladi is just bad :(( and you need ee which will constantly giving you mp innova dont like gladi on classic but even when he was so terrible it was funny to play as gladiator ;D as i heard innova dont like classic at all 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, [email protected] said: well quatz on offi with his 84lvl, +17 a grade dual hits +/- not bad, but compared with same tyrant was really sad proffesion i played gladi on off, mby i haven't a lot of neccesary boost on him, but with hero duals i hit to top players so low dps that i reroll valor+pala buff+puri and gladi is just bad :(( and you need ee which will constantly giving you mp innova dont like gladi on classic but even when he was so terrible it was funny to play as gladiator ;D same like on skitty right now, would do same thing on gladiator, i know it cannot be the burst dps class we all know it was, thats why i would play it like support secondary DD in archer party - with LH + UE (UE being freaking nonsense, but w/e) + decent stats being frontline for archers, soaking damage, while i actively can hex (100% hex through puri + its stronger than ordinary hex, instead of 23% its 30-33%) because remember, PRs cannot go close to hex targets for themselves and even if, puri would stop them now i think those are good enough advantages for archer party to run gladi in setup, archers having permanently 30% hex on people if they can assist to gladiator or just generally having more targets with hex which they can fatal for that much more damage + getting focused instead of my archers + in case some bard gets too close to my backline archers and far from healer, gladi can still delete such guy as most of his skills ignore shield just because some class doesnt have potential to delete everything that moves in 2s doesnt mean its useless, it just means that maybe its suited for some other job and use its utilities Edited April 13, 2020 by MoDoy Quote Share this post Link to post
[email protected] 24 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 but you know that gladi is taking a lot more dmg from mages than 3/4 of proffesion ? 😛 same thing you can do on tyrant twice times better ;D ofc you can play like this - but it doesn't change this that now he is weaker Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, [email protected] said: but you know that gladi is taking a lot more dmg from mages than 3/4 of proffesion ? 😛 same thing you can do on tyrant twice times better ;D ofc you can play like this - but it doesn't change this that now he is weaker dont worry, we have enough m def even without ogre, but this UE can help to not get bursted by other tyrants/PRs, generally i like gladi more than tyrant in archer party setup (pre-puri for example he can go in front and resist many debuffs coz of LH) and other stuff its just an idea, maybe it wouldnt work, but i am pretty sure it could work (in the end, tyrant or gladi is w/e which one you choose, but i dont think you could go wrong with it, which means gladi is not really that useless) Quote Share this post Link to post
[email protected] 24 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, MoDoy said: dont worry, we have enough m def even without ogre, but this UE can help to not get bursted by other tyrants/PRs, generally i like gladi more than tyrant in archer party setup (pre-puri for example he can go in front and resist many debuffs coz of LH) and other stuff its just an idea, maybe it wouldnt work, but i am pretty sure it could work (in the end, tyrant or gladi is w/e which one you choose, but i dont think you could go wrong with it, which means gladi is not really that useless) you just wrote on 2 topic that mages has too big dps and now you wrote that you have enough m def wtf Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, [email protected] said: you just wrote on 2 topic that mages has too big dps and now you wrote that you have enough m def wtf because they do, on my M def they should hit like 30% less, if i get nuked by people for 600-800 right now, doesnt mean they nuke me hard, but they nuke me harder than they should that means i am able to tank them, but with what i have, i should tank them even better Edited April 13, 2020 by MoDoy Quote Share this post Link to post
[email protected] 24 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, MoDoy said: because they do, on my M def they should hit like 30% less, if i get nuked by people for 600-800 right now, doesnt mean they nuke me hard, but they nuke me harder than they should that means i am able to tank them, but with what i have, i should tank them even better so do you think its neccesary to nerf mages to hit you for 400-600? Quote Share this post Link to post
MoDoy 1772 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, [email protected] said: so do you think its neccesary to nerf mages to hit you for 400-600? no. not nerf, but fix. just because they deal to me 400-600, doesnt mean they dont deal to my clan mate 1000-1200 damage, which they shouldnt, mages should focus to kill targets, not just go yolo solo kill people Quote Share this post Link to post