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​and , in what way can that destroy the economy? That's a simple trade that doesn't affect the rest of the economy

​True. ​i cant see any reasons why. Can you explain the reasons why you think that?

​Cualquier objeto tradable ya es practicamente "adena" como por ejemplo las recipes de SSD, SSC y las otras que prometen por el metodo de compra con coins. Es cosa de venderlas a un precio decente y rapido te armas TOP NG. ​no, no lo es, la adena es la unidad base de intercambio, como lo és cualquiera moneda real. Incrementando la adena de forma artificial creas una inflación a la cual no pueden hacer frente aquellos que juegan sin donar. Eso no sucede ofreciendo recipes, eso provocará la caida del precio (en adenas) de estas, solamente.

sinceramente como la han dejado ahora, no me parece algo que desbalancee el server. Han de sacar dinero para mantener el server, y los blessed scroll y la reduccion de perdida de xp, me parece algo correcto. Injectar adena de forma artificia, si que destrozaria el server, pero eso no.

​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13jawQmLRQQ hace poco vi esto, dios que recuerdos jajaj iras al classic europeo cuando lo abran? o piensas quedarte aqui? un saludo gente! ​Buen video, no lo tenia controlado :> Me entró por un momento el gusanillo de volver a probar L2, con eso de la cronica esta nueva. Realmente no tengo claro que vuelva a jugar, quieras que no son muchas horas, y yo ya he vivido practicamente el 100% de las experiencias que puede ofrecer un server clasico de L2. Sin ganas de meter zizaña, tengo claro que aqui no jugaria, el server tiene demasiados bugs (no tienen archivos oficiales del classic), el staff no es reponsable y consecuente. Son muchas horas las que vas a dejar en un l2 classic, así que es preferible no jugar a meterse en uno que no vale la pena. Si decido jugar iré al oficial, si innova controla los bots, algo que no tolero.

​what is the meaning of testing those skills? do you know the real land rate in an official classic server? No. So you cant check if here are set up correctly, because you dont know the correct ones. and is hard to set up those things, because, there are differences, if you land it on characters or mobs, and depends on the level, or maybe m.atk too. and nobody knows if land rate decreases proportional to the diff of level, or exponential, or another kind of equation, and what is that rate.

​this server is a custom server, admins try to set it up like a classic one, but, nobody knows mobs stats in classic, nobody knows the exacts numbers how the skills works, even nobody knows the exact drop rates of the mobs. Even the admins dont know that data, because they have off files, but not classic off files. Every one that have a deep knowledge of lineage and have played this beta from the beginning knows that they dont have Classic off files. Nobody have those files. ​if only you knew what u talk about... ​i know son i know, didnt you pick every droprate 1 by 1? into the database using l2central as a main reference? then you should know l2central isnt an official l2classic database, and is not accurate. you dont have l2classic geodata. if you have l2classic pts off files, that you claim, there wont be such amount of bugs, and wrong mobs stats. etc. im not telling is something bad, its something different from retail classic. But a server that you have to set up from 0 to what you think to know, is a custom server, because you dont apply what you dont know about this chronicle

​In Classic there no SA health and you can have +12 stat with Dye, it's better to put +12 CON -12 STR or +12 CON -8 STR -4 DEX, stat have changed in Classic too. Tank is pretty useless in Classic especially in mass pvp and best pve party (mage/archer CP) because BD,SwS and Warlord can do same job, even better because they have dance/song or mass stun/better aggro range for warlort Thats not true, if you check leveling +lvl 40 videos, of classic, or streamings of mage parties leveling in classic, every one of them have 1 tank with aoe hate, because in classic sws and bd usually lose hate of some mobs, its harder to keep them together, leveling slower and increasing the chance to die. Anyways this server its not classic so i dont know how it works here ​This server will follow the same classic rules and content from russian retail, thats already been established ​this server is a custom server, admins try to set it up like a classic one, but, nobody knows mobs stats in classic, nobody knows the exacts numbers how the skills works, even nobody knows the exact drop rates of the mobs. Even the admins dont know that data, because they have off files, but not classic off files. Every one that have a deep knowledge of lineage and have played this beta from the beginning knows that they dont have Classic off files. Nobody have those files.

​In Classic there no SA health and you can have +12 stat with Dye, it's better to put +12 CON -12 STR or +12 CON -8 STR -4 DEX, stat have changed in Classic too. Tank is pretty useless in Classic especially in mass pvp and best pve party (mage/archer CP) because BD,SwS and Warlord can do same job, even better because they have dance/song or mass stun/better aggro range for warlort Thats not true, if you check leveling +lvl 40 videos, of classic, or streamings of mage parties leveling in classic, every one of them have 1 tank with aoe hate, because in classic sws and bd usually lose hate of some mobs, its harder to keep them together, leveling slower and increasing the chance to die. if you hate 1 group of 4-5 mobs, there are 3-4 mobs that chase you but they dont have hate, they chase you and mix with you train, so you cant hate them, when they are being hit by your mages they are going to chase your mages to kill them. Anyways this server its not classic so i dont know how it works here

​you should extract the internal drop database, and show it to the people, so they can compare it with l2central and check if there are some typos, thats the best way to check the drops, not ingame.

​Hello San0, What Nevax and myself are trying to point out is that the players that are coming to see the server, should benefit from a POSITIVE experience, not a negative one... a lot of people left the server due to the roll-back, and a lot of new player were discouraged. The main idea is that as long as it is an open beta, there should be an active GM online most of the time, to be able to support new-commers and also support the veterans by offering them the full experience of what the server is going to be when it is launched. I am more than sure that is not hard to do... Best Regards Defiance ​people that dont have time to read annuncements and the forums are not going to stay here in the server when live, why? Beta server is running with x50 rates x100 adena, or maybe more, live server x3, if they leave for 1 day roll back at beta ... be sure they wont stay playing at a 16-33 times harder server than the actual. ​There isn't any possibility that the current rates are anywhere near where you have stated. Based on Prelude L2 or Classic L2 from RU/KR, especially considering the fact that it's boosted 3x on RU from current L2. Current L2 you can't even kill a single mob and level past level 1. To go from level 1 to level 4 is around at most, maybe 10x. Which technically would be around 9x, if this is at 3x times the normal RU Classic. Adena, I wouldn't be sitting at 500K at level 26 with a wooden set and cestus ? with a dwarf (keeping mats) if it was 100x adena either. Now moving on past your exuberant rate amount I reiterate the original message that I was trying to convey from the start which Vedy tried to convey as well. We weren't looking for compensation, we know where to look on the forum and in the game to notice that it is beta. He states hes a Quality control game tester, which I wont doubt, I have no reason to. I almost have a degree as a Game Designer, but someone like him would have a little bit more knowledge on such things of what happens to players when a "BETA" is in order without information that is in plain view. Age has nothing to do with understanding what Vedy and myself were trying to state. It goes back to the simple fact that most people, whether they stay here or not, will not pay attention to simple things. It's a private server, they have no real commitment here, EVER. It doesn't cost anything to play and if it doesn't work, why on earth would they come back? That's as basic as the question gets and that's what we were trying to convey. The people that dont come back aren't necessarily going to be the players you don't want here either. Honestly, I almost didn't come back to test it out more simply because of it and the warm welcome of "get over it". But I did, for the simple fact that I want to see what happens when the server goes live. I've been playing L2 since NA OB, on and off of course and i've honestly been looking for a server that is like this, but if new players will be welcomed with a "it's beta, what do you expect" attitude. I can promise you, the work the scripters/programmers/admins have put forth, wont matter. Your time will have been wasted. This has nothing to do with compensation or thinking I am an amazing L2 player. It has everything to do with the longevity of the server and keeping this place a place people want to go to. I'm sorry to say it, but those of you that have been here testing and playing for a long period of time, should be more accepting of seeing new people post. These are potential PK's, PVP, Sieges or maybe even potential guild mates on this PS. Instead of stating that the new players need to get over themselves, why not get over yourselves and understand that not everyone is a forum god? ​mate, all the player base has been lost since the postpone of the grand opening date May 15th, now, 5 months later, the server stills in beta stage. all the work we did, I, nscraft, googleboon, and a lot of people in the advertising event, has been useless. I brought here more than 1700 potential players, that right now have gone, because of this long wait. That's the main problem, not that the staff state to the whining players that the server is in beta stage, and wipes will be eventually. And about the rates, you don't need to believe nothing, just go, search in one of the 2 classic databases that exist (other one are not classic database), and check the actual rates. Im not playing this server to give you an exact example with numbers, and even if would, you still wont believe me.

its because of the translate of google, Leto Lizardman Chief is the overlord one, they translate overlord as chief

overlord, should drop 326 — 759 (x100) or 326 — 759(x33) in the case the russian database is updated https://l2central.info/classic/Вождь_Ящеров_Лито you have to keep in mind, that "beta testers (players)" in this server don't check those things, like adena drop rate, and adena drop, that is 1 of the reasons why 4 months later of the first official Grand Opening date, May 15th, there are too much bugs, and differences in the drop database with the official. Now think for 1 min about it. If adena rate and adena drop is not correctly set up right now, and nearly nobody noticed. And it is something easy to check, because adena drop rate id 70%... then, think about items drop rate, nobody can check that, at least not any player. why? for instance, if 1 item has 1% drop rate, you need to kill the same mob, 100x30, to kill 3000 of the same mob, to obtain a decent estimated drop rate of that item, to compare it with the official database. another reason is, there are some great differences between russian classic database, and korean one. So, just live with that, this server is called "classic" but is a custom one, there is NO possibility to set it up like the official classic, because there is not know the official classic database, only estimated numbers, noone here can check if those estimated numbers are settled correctly, and there are differences between the 2 main classic databases.

and dont know if those databases are updated to the actual drop rate of russian server, because russian server is x3 of classic 1.0 right now.

Yeah you're on a wrong Database, please check on L2 central to have exact drop rate. ​Ok then, if a Snipe from cruma tower has 300 adena drop in database, and we have 500.000 adena here, that is 25x? :))) this is not good Also the Leto Lizardman Overlord has this - drop chance Brigandine Helmet10.927% — 1.139% if you multiply that with 25 that should mean 1 brig helm at every 4 lizards killed :)) ​you still checking the wrong database, thats not a classic data base https://l2central.info/classic/Панцирный_Шлем here is the bringandine helmet drop database. there is another classic database, the korean one, just waste time in google, i dont remember the link, but for god, waste time. and remember, there no exist a real l2 classic server database, the russian and korean one, are estimated database, thats why there are intervals 0.01% - 0.05% because there is not know the exact drop rate of the things. No official database has been released. Those probabilities, and numbers have been obtained through a program that players are using in the official russian and korean servers, to gather an estimated drop rate of the items.

​Hello San0, What Nevax and myself are trying to point out is that the players that are coming to see the server, should benefit from a POSITIVE experience, not a negative one... a lot of people left the server due to the roll-back, and a lot of new player were discouraged. The main idea is that as long as it is an open beta, there should be an active GM online most of the time, to be able to support new-commers and also support the veterans by offering them the full experience of what the server is going to be when it is launched. I am more than sure that is not hard to do... Best Regards Defiance ​people that dont have time to read annuncements and the forums are not going to stay here in the server when live, why? Beta server is running with x50 rates x100 adena, or maybe more, live server x3, if they leave for 1 day roll back at beta ... be sure they wont stay playing at a 16-33 times harder server than the actual.

plus that i cant log in with the account that i created to gather those advertising point, what did you do with my account?

​yes, too cool, but i hope you can fix the the main website, it doesn't show up my 1730 advertising points

​you can, using european proxy servers And noone knows if this server is going to open, admins said may 15th 2015... If you are looking for some l2 "classic" experience, right know there are other alternatives, waste a bit of time searching and you will find them.

​ ok.my bad. when start? which server? you never said which server are you looking for, the official or this private server?

​are you fucking kidding me? you posted an image from the official lineage classic project. and you are in the forums of a private non official custom lineage 2 server. did you notice the difference?. my god, forgive them because they dont know what they do.

​that thing doesn't exist. this server has no drop database. Maybe someone will come and give you a estimated classic drop database, but remember, this is not a classic server. It is a custom server.

You are wrong, there have been 3 other beta stages before the beta at 22-05-2015, a beta that the staff didnt want to open, because they said the server was ready to live for may 15th, but the community forced the staff to open the beta 5 days before the GRAND OPENING They had An, (and repeat An) issue 5 hours before the 5 DAYS BETA, an issue that they were unable to solve 3 months and a half later.

no, si juegas en el servidor koreano no es necesario, en el ruso si te piden cuotas. Por ahora creo que solo hay 2 servidores clasicos, en rusia y en korea. Este servidor no es clasico, es un custom, servidor personalizado que intenta asemejarse al clasico.

​you have a nearly 90% xp recovery from resurrection spell with the appropriate wit