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does anyone know why it suddenly smells like shit in here?

Dear old clan members and Administration of L2 Classic Club, In connection to the changes “wickedsick” alliance had in the past weeks, not only we lost game assets from ally bank due to actions of sjeks to delete, crystalize items but also was a clear example of what low paths sjeks is willing to take against players within our clan. As we already know, all alliance assets will be returned (if possible) as result of almost a week of investigation and questioning by server administration and following the decision of ally leader BizQQuit all the items will be splitted between those who put effort in it. These are very comforting decisions. However there is one controversial action sjeks took which proved us all how disrespectful he was to OUR common effort and time. And more exactly: All clan members were informed and it was decided to raise a prophet up to level 80 to benefit of its unique skill for such events as rb, sieges etc. All members of ally knew that this character and ACCOUNT is property of Perkunas clan, and exactly leader of ally BizQQuit and his cp. So as BizQQuit proved over years to be a good leader, to whom people have respect and trust, nobody had doubts that even if something will change alliance and clan Perkunas will have this character. Almost everyone was invited to participate in following this goal and those who were active had access to the account, all this to speed up the exp curve. Anyways we are not robots, but gamer's with real life activities and professional tasks. And time ,as we know, is valuable. In conclusion, every clan member who exp-ed this character playing PVE or RB also those players which offered their supports, but also those that were left out of party at priest are in the end humiliated by sjeks’ action to delevel prophet to 76. In current server rules there is noted that players must follow a FAIR game and have RESPECT for others and precisely: 4.2 Play fair. 4.3 Respect other players, Administration and GMs. Even if our alliance was splitted on two camps, sjeks didn’t had any rights to take such actions against character Sauvignon and decide for all. Moreover, considering the fact that password was changed at a certain time that was the reference point after which any actions taking against the character should be considered against server rules stated above. His actions showed his disrespect to everyone's joint effort to achieve such difficult goal. I am asking people, who took different side to think about this fact, that sjesk’s does not have any privileges as well as any other party leaders including BizQQuit to harm own alliance effort and put it to waste. He acted as an offended spoiled kid and not as an adult who would not take such actions against own people. I want to bring attention to the fact that Sauvignon’s delevel from 80 to 76 brought not only to a item loss of a book, which indeed is a game asset, but everyone’s loss of time and effort for the long 3 months during which together as a team pushed towards this goal. I consider that those who actively participated in this ally event have right to ask together to return Sauvignon back to 80 lvl. We ask server administrations to reconsider their initial decision on this subject. Sincerely yours, ZaZaDaKiLLa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Уважаемые бывшие со-алийцы и администрация. В связи с произошедшими изменениями в нашем альянсе WickedSick, сложившаяся ситуация привела не только к утере игровых ценностей из банка альянса, из-за неправомерных действий одного из руководителей альянса (sjeks) , но и стала наглядным примером того на сколько этот человек (sjeks) и его поступок был низким по отношению к игрокам нашего альянса. Как мы уже знаем, все имущество альянса будет возвращено администрацией и, по решению лидера альянса BizQQuit , разделено между каждым парти лидером альянса который в свою очередь поделит это между мембрами которые потратили свое время и силы на добычу данных предметов. И, это не может не радовать. Однако остается еще один возмутительный поступок того же бывшего лидера (sjeks), который показывает нам на сколько неуважительно его отношение к НАШЕМУ совместному труду, потраченному времени и усилию. А именно:. Каждый член клана был информирован и было обсуждение в альянсе о решении поднять до 80 уровня одного «Hierophant» для использования его уникальных умений на совместных мероприятиях таких как rb, осады и т.д. Каждый член клана (альянса) знал о том, что именно этот персонаж, как и АККАУНТ к нему, является собственностью альянса, а именно лидера этого альянса BizQQuit . Так как BizQQuit является настоящим лидером и человеком, которому все доверяют, никто не сомневался и не сомневается в том, что, даже если что-то изменится, альянс не потеряет данного персонажа. Так как практически все принимали участие в поднятии уровня, было решено дать возможность всем игрокам альянса получить доступ к этому персонажу для более быстрого достижения целей и экономии времени. Все же мы не являемся роботами, а живыми людьми и игроками, у которых кроме игры есть еще и реальная жизнь. А время, как мы знаем, стоит дорого. В итоге, каждый член клана, который поднимал % данному персонажу, играя им на PVE или же на RB, так же как и игроки, персонажи которых, были использованы альянсом для поддержки, БАФФОВ или просто находились ОФФ ПАРТИ, были унижены и оскорблены действиями sjeks. В пунктак правила сервера есть упоминания о таком понятии как ЧЕСТНАЯ ИГРА и УВАЖЕНИЯ ДРУГИХ ИГРОКОВ СЕРВЕРА а именно : 4.2 Play fair. 4.3 Respect other players, Administration and GMs. Даже разделившись на 2 разных лагеря, этот человек не имел никакого права предпринимать какие либо действия по отношению к данному персонажа Sauvignon и решать за всех. Тем более, учитывая факт того, что после разделения альянса на 2 стороны пароль на персонажа был изменен и, именно начиная с этого момента, заходить на него было агрессивным и противоправным действием. Его действия были показанием неуважения ко всему труду, силам и временем потраченному игроками, количество которых превышает цифру 50. Я прошу людей, которые перешли на другую сторону подумать о том факте, что sjeks, называя себя лидером альянса, в любом случае не имеет права, так же как кто-либо другой лидер, включая BizQQuit, пренебрегать трудом, временем и усилиями остальных игроков альянса. Вести себя как обиженный маленький ребенок, а не порядочный взрослый мужчина, который не должен делать подобные вещи. Хочу еще раз акцентировать внимание на том , что слив персонажа Sauvignon с 80 по 76 лвл привел не только к потере книги, которая безусловно представляет собой игровую ценность, но и к тому, что sjeks просто наплевал на членов альянса, которые целеустремленно и дружно , на протяжении более 3 месяцев, трудились ради достижения 80 уровня этого персонажа. Я считаю, что игроки, которые принимали участие в поднятии уровня этого персонажа, имеют право голоса в решении вопроса о возврате 80 уровня нашему Sauvignon тоже. Так же вы можете подтвердить мои слова проверив со скольки айпи адресов был загружен Sauvignon начиная с решения альянса об эго прокачки начиная с августа месяца и до достижения 80 лвл и кто являеться владельцем майн персонажа от айпи. Мы просим администрацию сервера еще раз рассмотреть данный случай .

Can you just fucking stop? I've had 2 weeks of this bullshit from you (biz and co). Noone buys your stupid shit, people who are with you, are with you, you wont win anyone over. Nor can i convince you that its all ego for bizqquit, he had to prove that hes a bigger man. Its bizqquit who decided to say fuck it and ruin everything again, its bizqquit who never wanted to be a leader and made me into a leader, not a fucking CEO or some 'helping guy', he did not want to do what i did. Then he comes back after quitting yet another time and decided he is kicking me, i would never kick bizqquit, same like i would never kick Kiam nor did i, even when bizqquit said 'i dont know how you can put up with kiam's bs'. I still respect both kiam and bizqquit. Nothing here was a surprise for me, i knew this could happen since like 9+ months ago, i had many examples of who bizqquit did it to and how, and knew who bizqquit was and is, nothing about all of this was a shock to me, i did not take anything personally here, i did not ever do it for myself, i wanted to quit too, it was too stresful after he quit, he did not teach me shit at that point, i could not do anything, but i did not quit, because of all the people who asked me, i couldnt leave them like that. Ask bizqquit about alex from oppa cp, he likes people doing everything for him, but still wants to make the shots. And after i let him come back with full respect, after he called me names and treat me like some kid who hes teaching a lesson, after all this i said i wont rub it into his face and will treat him with more respect, all cps were with me i did not need to do this, but i wanted him back for everyone else, i did not need him, he was fine with it(i quess lied), said how 'i(me) passed final test even know it wasnt planned', said how he i(me) handled this situation well, how he respects me as a leader now, and at that moment i think he did, next day he probably slept on it and woke up with a same attitude 'im gonna school this kid in cunnery'. He changed prp pass which he said he would not change from us, he decided to go alone with his cp(he said if everyone decides to follow sjeks he would not object), he went to all this martyrdom how he is the poor guy getting scammed here. Prp was exped by many people, noone wanted to do that prp until i organised it, people were raging at me when i said we will xp prp only+1 destro on 70 raids, then people said how its a waste of time to do priests, then people raged at me when we exped only prp+2 destros. I was waking up 5am to kill priests to xp that prp, and many others helped too, if anyone should be salty about prp being deleveled its us, its our prp that got stolen, i said i would give 77prp for balu (thats where we started exping it from) and he gave me some mumbo jumbo, we did everything on it(except driver ofcourse). And it was not me alone who decided to delevel it aswell, granted not everyone was there, but it had to be done quick. If anyone here should be complaining its us, but we are not. Noone was forced to play with me, i dont need this, i did not do this for me, i could quit today and would not feel bad about it, i dont do this for myself. I dont even know if anyone gonna read this wall of text, but this is my 2 cents, i will not type anymore, but please do the same, stop this shit and play.

After admins lvl up back that PRP, they can provide us with 80 lvl PRP ALSO. I dont mind then. So im interested, where was Biz "Fair play" when he QUIT server after siege and gave lead to Sjeks, and after some time he starts play again and kick ally lead?(NOT scam?) Jusl like Modoy said if he gave lead hes not fckn leader anymore, so only SJEKS can give back lead to him, NO? We try set up things back to normal, cause this sh started cause of some bullsh and thought everything is OK, next day i see i got kicked from leaders chat(less questions, easier convince rest ppl?). Then after 24 h of shit stories and "proofs" creations he add me back like nothing happened and starts explaining Sjeks scammer? ALLY farming priest and Rip try check PRP logins and GUES WHAT, pass already changed? (NOT scam?) U get what u deserve so stop fckn whining here. Yea would be perfect get PRP 80 lvl with CC, then suck balls to admin and get full ally bank back - JACKPOT isnt it? All CP goes to Sjeks side, and this piece of shit starts talking about he created everything so Perkunas belong to him? (NOT scam?) Ally started all epic farms with Sjeks, farmed Baiums, priest, and this MF Biz comes and says all shit on ally bank is my cause its my char and must go to me?(NOT scam?) Go ask your fkcn precious Biz how ppl got bans only cause this mf "didnt liked them" and he did fake "proofs" to f up them. Not to mention what ive heard now, that Rizos eipcs was tried to delete by this MF. Fckn "Saint of server". I see you VERY concerned about ppl spend time to lvl it up, i gues only YOURS time worth something, and OURS WAS worth SHIT? PRP was ALLY property, so WTF acc got pass changed if ally lead SJEKS didnt asked do that, and didnt get NEW ONE? So it goes from ally to fckn 1 CP who do mutiny on fckn ship? HOW comes PRP is ally property but goes out from ally? If you think 1 fckn rat who did this whole shit is "ally" so u must be fall from a tree on your head... Also u can ask Biz why all CP get instablocked from epic farm sheets, so they cant check epic pts they have, so this way he "saves epic loss" from same bank he tries get back later.(NOT scam?) So can u remind me there again - WHAT THE F YOU WANT??? Maybe its time to simply STFU with your shit proves, whines and rest bshit u doing on forums, and in admins pm, and continue play after admit FACT that u mutiny traitor fckn rats fcked up ally and are worth ONLY SHIT to get. P.S. Im wondering how items will be splited at end? Generous Biz will take "his part of top items" and send for rest shit crystals like last time we had? Cant wait to see this.

Bastard ... my ears ....

Or ppls started to look for work becouse it wasnt fun anymore to play alone ?

I know some1 who is proud of beating Sorc with pony, and put it into his pony oly movie xd

Im leaving this here in case we need it:

hmm let me think... Am I patient enough?

hahahah But yo .... MoDoy look oter side its great opportunity to destroy another side xd

Better to lose something with good people, then found something with wrong... I guess, loosing PP 80 lvl not so high price for get rid of wrong people....

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shut the ... The topic is ours now. Open a new one.

i am the guy who waits little children to build snowmen outside, once they leave i go out and stomp on the snowmen until its destroyed.

Don't stop please

2 weeks after the accident happened (so not even 1 week after it was solved) and i have video uploaded where your cp was already running with perks crest, and now have in mind that the video wasnt uploaded 1 second after it was done and i doubt it was first day your cp even joined perks, so you probably remember wrong and you were part of perks when that sh1t happened i dont need to make him look like a bad guy, coz he is same trash person like sjeks, nothing else to add, if you want to read more funny stories, feel free to log your SE account on web and read tickets how balu was trying his old logins, somehow guessed rizos account on 6th try (rofl, you are checking which of old acc work and you try one account 6 times while you get ban after 3rd try instead of just wondering that the guy who is enemy probably changed pass) and suddenly 5h after balu logged in, mysterious IP/HWID logs in rizos account and >deletes< epics (not even scam for his own business, obviously wanted to just harm) i guess you need to desperately try to make biz look like good guy that people still believe he doesnt have fingers in that, let me remind you, biz is the leader who will make ANYTHING just so he can win, sadly even such scum tactics as what sjeks did

pretty much what happened in perks summed in this video

now only waiting for the day when reaver comes and says "biz, you are not leader of perks anymore, i am leader" and claims all perkunas items for himself, what a day for humanity that would be

HAHAHAHAH again nice info. If i said how really sauvignon was exped till 77, he would be banned .

Idk why I even respond to you... You are talking all the time about contribution.... "I did more then he"... "he did less then you"...but it's you an idiot if you don't understand that normal ppl don't act like this. you don't like Biz - no problemos amigo! Quit and divide commune assets! But you acting like kids in a sandbox. You decided that you did more and you deserve it. Adult ppl do not destroy common property just coz they think they deserve it. I was multiple time driving Destros on Baium and priests. Where is my epics? Or even something? Why didn't I take it when I had chance? Coz I think I deserve it. It's wrong! You destroyed common property without asking all ppl. Just coz you decided you have right to do it. It should be discussed with all. If not it's - scam. And it's what you have done. Discussion is over. Good luck!

You don't understand. Sjeks side LOST sauvignon, not bizqquit side. Bizqquit side put minuscule effort to get him to 80(only exception is zp). A huge amount of effort was put in by driver too, who isn't playing anymore. You are whining about "losing" a pp who you barely even leveled. Stop playing the fucking victims here, everything started with biz having his ego shaken and starting mutiny while claiming the clan as his own when he hasnt led the clan in god knows how long. Also with all the core CPs supporting sjeks. For the millionth time, perkunas was an alliance consisting of multiple parties, not just a side of randoms being led by biz. I see biz claiming that he taught us how to do epics, how to pvp, how to go the fucking toilet. We thank him for it but what more do you expect? Does he own all the fucking loot because he taught us some stuff? If there was any justice in this world, biz would only keep his CP's epics and a few more items as a sign of our thankfulness for his contributions to the alliance. Nothing else. Keeping the ally warehouse and a shitton of epics was a disgrace to all the CPs in the clan who got tired of his bullshit and left. If bizqquit is perkunas I believe that everyone on sjeks side will agree with me that we don't want to have anything to do with perkunas anymore. We loved the clan, we liked the people in the clan,we became friends with a lot of our clanmates. That was the essence of the clan, every person representing it. Not just fucking bizqquit. If you disagree, I have 3 words to say to you. Delete life, idiot.

What is wrong with u ppl? Megalomania? U could say nothing and play like potatoes on Raid Boss i see many times, u dont want waste your time so learn ppl how to do things to do faster, now wtf u want? Fckn monument memorial? U did what is OBVIOUS, and any normal person would do to go forward faster, so wtf starting now whine same stories like Biz? PRP delvl was decided by all who were on TS when we were farming priest, after we heard that pass is already changed, so fkcn lames who did that shit dont dare to whine now if u started this. If any of you were hoping that we will leave this shit like that(after somany efforts done for it) then u are deadbrained monkeys...

Point of view matters .... If You ask Macron who to blame for yellow vest riots .... He would probably say to blame protesters.

Guys come on, don't go off topic. Don't pay any attention to crooked zaza and discuss the one matter that must be resolved. Was kamikaze CP kicked from SM? Or did they leave on their own?

your motive summed up in one sentence, congratulations

OMG so much time to got it ....

You were playing anytime during September was that month when Hellious humiliate you without even using talismans..

til jerryz and naitrino come and confirm we are kicked all you say is trash and lies.... end of story

am i supposed to be able to read something on those pictures?

And you finally managed to disband an ally bcz of your retarded actions..Its a circle bro ..

Germans used to take away things from others.......

@MyrmidonAch modoy didnt play anytime again after the month he lost to hellious, i played anytime next month and i dont even remember if i lost to hellious cause i was trying to avoid him anyway because i suck in sk. @Destabilomaterializacja no we actually stopped playing cause me and xnirvana started working during prime hours while progressive left , so we lost 3 core members. We actually made 5 heroes in cp next month and we didnt even play 1 prime. So heroes were never the issue.

Didnt you stop play as FW when you lost 2 core heros? Oh no that was holidays break. ?

Its funny because they considered you as a trash player who didnt know how to play..But you know he got bored of taking SK hero all the time and let you enjoy it Its not his style to act as a leader thats why his Alliance doesnt exist . Because he let trashes acting as leaders ...

Andrius even now your attitude its not respectful. and if you think its still funny you did this action you are wrong.

1st he must have ballz for that.

Dont change topic to some irrelevant oly matches and dick measure please

relax

Toxic game ?

@etze your opinion.i see things different. also my opinion so no1 cares:) stop acting like kid.

I did not play in your CP (maybe it's for the better), I do not know all the subtleties of your domestic policy, I draw conclusions exclusively from the rules and correspondence here. BUT if the person was active, participated in all activities of the clan and party, including the extraction of valuable resources and item in a certain period of time, he has the right to produced during this time items are not less than another member of the party (even PL). I understand your resentment about people who come for a month and that they want to carry with them without doing anything for this, BUT if something is produced by joint efforts, then everyone who took part in this has the right to it. It's like the divorce of a married couple, which was acquired together, divided in half or by contract.

It's so boring that Koreans can't play without EE.

MyrmidonAch was allways here

lol ... You are living in your imaginary world, my friend... I will give you an explanation connected to the real live ... One guy(Pendragon) was hired to be CEO of a company(Perkunas). He was doing his HR job(hiring CPs) , accounting(calculate points from epics) and managing properties of the company. And with time that guy decided that he is not just a hired person, appointed to do some job for this company but the owner of this company. He convinced part of employees, that he has hired to this company, that he is the owner, stole assets of this company, explaining it like all thieves and scammers do : "I deserve it !" . Plus he destroyed company property (delevled PP) without purpose just to make harm. In the real live he would be arrested with his accomplices and spend couple years in jail, depending on the law of the place of crime. But it's a game, so have fun with you new "leader"(who is actually not capable of leading) and stay in your imaginary world... PS Btw One of ur new leaders asked for help, saying that ally needs it, and I was doing a job for him while he was deleveling my CP prophet. How would you call such a person? That is a rhetorical question.....

Shamans in BS didn't drop anything in 1hour