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Can admin confirm if Con is affecting stun land rate? same target, no dyes and then with +12 con. The land rate tool will save hours of tries. And check in 80 con. If target becomes practically inmune to stun, and the land rate system doesnt change, then it doesnt take into cosideration stats influence and therefore its wrong Sleep, bleed, poison, root, curse fear are affected by stats too. Anchor is not affected (con, men, wit) @Rizos where did San0 say that it is influenced by con? can not find it

Maybe you should have done a higher number of tries. How can it be posible that there is 14% difference on land rate between hammer crush and sonic blaster if they are supose to have the same? How it can be posible that hammer crush has 56% stun land rate against lv. 71 if in San0 tests it has 65% against lvl 76?Attacker had lv. 74 stun as well.

If i remember right that stun chart is from 1.0 with lvl 40 characters. it could be posible that this land rate is not supose to be constant through lv. 40-75. We need official tests in lvl 75 to confirm Agree

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Read the table of 6.3.2 http://ftp.inn.eu/forum/l2/Amarantha/cl15/L2CEUpn.pdf Red nickname: 0-3 pk points: no items drop Red nickname: 4+ pk points: you can drop I think it was different in 1.3. But now its like this

Guys, what do you think? in a basic party with dds, can the tank or the healer/buffer, with 3 or more levels higher than the mob, raid boss or epic, penalize the drop rate of it, if it doesnt make the greatest dmg? Does the fact of being in the same pt of dds or outside of it is relevant to the drop rate? I think that drop rate of a mob/raid/epic depends only on who dealt the greatest dmg to it, regardless of in which pt he belongs. Most ppl thinks the opposite, I think it could be interesting to discuss then I found this: https://4gameforum.com/threads/586611/ and this: https://4gameforum.com/threads/10522/ What is your opinion?

This system is custom by itself, is not in official. The way it is intended to work is up to what admins and community think is best. It is different than talking about skill mechanics

​First time I hear about this, I was playing Skelth before i get here and Half Kill exist for sure. ​Maybe it was in 1.3 or before. On the description it was there for sure, but then it was removed. Since then i havent seen any video with half-kills, we talk about 1.5-2.0. If you find a official video with a dagger doing half-kill in 1.5-2.0 version, i will be happy since i main a dagger

I tested backstab with +12 STR -15 CON on th lvl 64 (not using any armor/buffs). against shilen elder lvl 64 (just set karmian, no buffs) doing duels. 1) Missed backstabs: 5/105 (land rate of backstab = 95.24%) 2) Half-Kills: 14/105 (13.33% chances of half-kill with backstab) 3) Critical backstab: 10/100 (100 backstabs landed, and only 10 were criticals, meaning that backstab has 10% chances of doing critical with +12 str, th lvl 64) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1) Land rate of backstab from behind ( https://4gameforum.com/threads/566669/ ) it should be 71.75% from behind 2) Half-kill shouldnt exist ( https://4gameforum.com/threads/558185/page-6 and https://4gameforum.com/threads/566669/ read the final comments from people). Also a member from official eu ( _URGE_ ) who is adventurer lvl 77, told me that there are no half-kills on pm. And i personally havent seen any half-kill in olympiad videos on official. 3) STR influence on chances to get backstab critical (x2 backstab damage) is bugged https://4gameforum.com/threads/560661/ see the tables of the experiment. Base chance for a 64 lvl th should be 10%, which is the result of my tests. But i should expect an increase in chances to get x2 backstab dmg due to +12 str dyes.

@Anytime maybe you should 'up' this thread http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/11390-daggers-skill-bug/#comment-66085 and report it there so admins will see it

This is what i was looking for "There is also some more new stuff coming specially for the summoner classes. Mass Cubics and the Buff Pets are showing up in this new update". http://l2classic.club/forum/topic/10277-l2classic-club-15-update-final-patch-notes/ @datplays compare now. They are the same

NOTE: L2 wiki database classic dont have this summons/buffs, thats why i wrote what i found in hellios

Up! Acording to L2 Helios the following summons, that were custom added in our version of classic, have the following buffs Feline Queen: Blessing of Queen - Queen's buff magic temporarily increases party members' Critical Rate/Damage.Gift of Queen - Queen's buff magic temporarily increases party members' P. Atk. and Accuracy.Cure of Queen - Has a chance to remove curses that decrease Accuracy, P Atk. and Atk. Spd. from all party membersBlessed Body - Temporarily increases maximum HP.Blessed Soul - Temporarily increases maximum MP.Haste - Temporarily increases Atk. Spd. Unicorn Seraphin Blessing of Seraphim – Temporarily increases MP regeneration for party members.Gift of Seraphim - Temporarily reduces party members' magic skill recovery time.Cure of Seraphim - Curse canceling magic used by unicorn seraphim. Cancels party members' Sleep, Hold, Stun, and Paralysis debuff. Unicorn seraphim - Acumen - Temporaly increases casting speedUnicorn Seraphim - Empower - Temporarily increases M. Atk. Effect 3.Unicorn Seraphim - Clarity - Temporarily decreases the MP consumption of skills of the target. Consumes Spirit Ore.Wild Magic – Temporarily increases crit. chances for mag. attack NightShade Curse of Shade - Provokes the enemy to attack and then casts a curse to momentarily decrease their P. Def. and M. Def.Mass Curse of Shade - Provokes nearby enemies to attack and then casts a curse to momentarily decrease their P. Def. and M. Def.Shade Sacrifice – Sacrifices Shade’s HP to heal a party member.Nightshade - Death Whisper - Temporarily increases critical P. Atk..Nightshade - Focus - Temporarily increases critical attack rate.Nightshade - Guidance - Temporarily increases Accuracy. Summoners can be very useful in parties than know how to fit this buffs in specific party-set ups i believe

@MoDoy @Rizos A damage comparison test between backstab and fatal counter(100%hp/60%/30%) against the same target, if you have the time, characters and will would be helpful:P In my opinion, if an AW behind you is less deadlier than a Pr on full hp from 900 range, then it is unbalanced. I think we can agree there. At 60% we can start debating who takes more risks for killing enemy healers/nukers. Again, archers can cast range stun every 3 seconds on other archers/daggers/mages/tanks to lock them before casting hex and fatal counter. Abbys walker and SpH dont have this cc and are also damage dealers of the same race. Sph has less hp/cp/p.def than both. Because of this, on full hp he probably deserves to have higher dps than pr, and with lower hp too (with cdl). The only reason why i dont want it to be changed is because it is retail like, and prs didnt know that fc had been nerfed until they reached lvl 59. So now we have to deal with them in the same way we have been dealing with OP classes like necro and gladi. At least there wont be a massive class change from warriors to prs now.

​how exactly did i appear in thise bet? - in my first reply i said i wish test server would be up, so we can either show its rumor or get it fixed -in second reply i say in case it affected stun on our server, it was broken back in the time (because it shouldnt) -in third reply i asnwered his question about giving proof -4th reply was showing his proof was incorrect -5th reply was quote to his "better to ask our lovely GMs to spend time and find out correct info" i am playing my archer with -CON build, and i didnt play on classic with +CON build, but san0 answered many times already he tested it and he said it doenst affect it, why shouldnt i believe him when i cannot test it myself? ​I take the bet that landrate of stun is not affected by con. For 10kk, deal? Modoy pussied out Deal.

If you dont want fine, i thought you were sure when discussing with Poseidon. No bet then. This is a bug report obv. And i think this is the way is working in test server (1.5) cause i tested myself back in the time, is not just a rumour Edit

@San0 do the tests please (80 con) I give 10kk to @Modoy if Con does not influence stun resistance in our server. But If it does influence, he has to give me 10kk (deal?) /endofdiscussion GF for the dwarf

Body impale shouldnt crit either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8YixQXe5Rg It does crit in live server altough is not in game/l2wiki/l2central/l2korea description

Guys, are you sure that hammer crush shouldnt crit? http://lineage2classic.power.plaync.com/wiki/해머+크러쉬

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